tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6152535984695656521.post5212836980093784147..comments2023-10-01T04:03:14.061-10:00Comments on Astronaut for Hire: Space Studies Showdown: ISU vs. UNDBrianShirohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00387138537627037829noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6152535984695656521.post-38525760040147809452016-08-05T11:52:20.279-10:002016-08-05T11:52:20.279-10:00Hi all!
Brian, I see that you mentioned the expen...Hi all!<br /><br />Brian, I see that you mentioned the expensive nature of the ISU programs and had a question about this if anyone is able to answer. I've recently graduated with a Bachelors in Aerospace Engineering, and was looking to apply for the MSS program. The only thing stopping me is the fees! Has anyone had first hand experience with the program and wouldn't mind sharing how they managed to handle the financial side of things? The way I see it, I would need to find work for a few years to be able to afford the program. <br /><br />I completely understand if people aren't willing to discuss this, as it can be considered a personal question. Any information/help would be greatly appreciated!<br /><br />Cheers,<br />AnthonyAnthonynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6152535984695656521.post-29675800006661615732016-07-11T10:14:02.944-10:002016-07-11T10:14:02.944-10:00Hi, Anonymous. I think the ISU MSS program is goo...Hi, Anonymous. I think the ISU MSS program is good for helping international students find space jobs. This is thanks largely to the required internship as part of the program, as well as the wide networking opportunities in the ISU community. Good luck!BrianShirohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00387138537627037829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6152535984695656521.post-31534563613589498132016-04-18T18:09:40.562-10:002016-04-18T18:09:40.562-10:00Hey Brian,
I am joining the ISU MSS Program this y...Hey Brian,<br />I am joining the ISU MSS Program this year.I am software engineer by profession but want to switch to space sector.so could you tell me ,what are the chances of getting jobs in same sector after this course for an international student.<br />Comments are very much appreciated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6152535984695656521.post-8241737160369607762016-03-27T00:14:19.893-10:002016-03-27T00:14:19.893-10:00Thank u for sharing good information
MS IN THE ...Thank u for sharing good information <br /><br /><a href="www.msintheusa.com" rel="nofollow"> MS IN THE USA</a><br /><br /><a href="www.msintheusa.com" rel="nofollow"> MSINTHEUSA</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.msintheusa.com/p/university-application-process.html" rel="nofollow"> UNIVERSITY APPLICATION PROCESS</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.msintheusa.com/p/us-universities.html" rel="nofollow"> US Universities</a><br />chaitu045https://www.blogger.com/profile/06973616119179707062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6152535984695656521.post-21716344467322298992015-04-15T19:01:16.883-10:002015-04-15T19:01:16.883-10:00 I often hear, "I just got my MBA so I expect... I often hear, "I just got my MBA so I expect to make $x amount more money because of it." I always immediately retort, "Said every person who just got their MBA<br /><br /> <a href="http://gmat-scope.blogspot.com/2011/06/reason-for-experimental.html" rel="nofollow">questions on the GMAT</a> nancy johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17693074677100549710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6152535984695656521.post-48492449542783954332012-09-26T11:11:26.910-10:002012-09-26T11:11:26.910-10:00Hey Brian, great article.
I've gone through t...Hey Brian, great article.<br /><br />I've gone through the entire process of trying to decide between ISU and UND, but I recently discovered a Masters in Human Space Exploration Sciences at the University of Houston in Texas. The program's URL is :<br /><br /> http://www.uh.edu/class/hhp/graduate-programs/ms-human-space-exploration/index.php<br /><br />It's more life science focused as oppose to UND and ISU which are more interdisciplnary. However, the University of Houston is located near NASA Johnson Space Center, and lots of NASA Employees are guest lectures for the Program.<br /><br />I'm 23 and did my undergrad in Biology, so I dont have much experience in Engineering or astrophysics, but I want to learn all aspects of space exploration. It's a fascinating field, and unfortunately there aren't many graduate programs out there!Shawn Snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6152535984695656521.post-67038775892987054752011-11-16T22:48:22.782-10:002011-11-16T22:48:22.782-10:00It's difficult to predict what employment oppo...It's difficult to predict what employment opportunities will come out of any educational experience. In general, UND has a less successful track record than ISU in that regard, I think. However, since you have a bachelor's in engineering, that will make you attractive to aerospace firms. By getting a space studies degree, you'll round out your capabilities beyond engineering, which I think makes you a strong competitor for jobs.BrianShirohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00387138537627037829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6152535984695656521.post-74302093569976978452011-10-31T04:23:38.190-10:002011-10-31T04:23:38.190-10:00i am currently in pre-fianl year of my BE aerospac...i am currently in pre-fianl year of my BE aerospace engg. degree in india. i am planning to go for MS Space Science in UND. but being a non-US resident, it might be risky to hunt a job after my graduation due to space program security policy of US govt., which poses a threat to my career. but considering that i am really interested in space exploration, this is a wonderfull program i would like to take up. i have been searching and comparing ISU and UND program for 6 months.and i found UND my list topper. so now, the question is will i be accepted in space sector after attending UND as a potential employee?POO!\!@M JO$@!\!https://www.blogger.com/profile/11081449273173470167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6152535984695656521.post-89133979729780628582010-01-19T09:46:23.462-10:002010-01-19T09:46:23.462-10:00Good discussion. for anyone interested, there is ...Good discussion. for anyone interested, there is a und/isu alumni and current student discussion 'group' at the PlanetSpace.com website.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6152535984695656521.post-51259714394760569572009-07-14T07:50:55.620-10:002009-07-14T07:50:55.620-10:00I have almost finished my MS Space Studies program...I have almost finished my MS Space Studies program at American Public University System (formerly, American Military University & American Public University) and it took me a while but finally got permission to do a MS Capstone Thesis. I gather the Capstone Thesis option is now a regular feature for all new (2009+) graduate students in the MS Space Program. There is a new "Planetary Science" focus as well in addition to the general Space Studies program. I agree with [Holly] that the Space Studies course is very broad, but it is good in a way that I believe gives me better skills than just a concentration in a particular subject. That said, I know realise that a BS and a MS is not sufficient, I am actively for my own career prospect seeking to take additional math courses and physics courses at a local college to become current before applying for another MS program or Ph.D program which will require both current knowledge and higher levels of math.<br /><br />However, if someone were to have a current BS degree (with at least two years of physics and math) in sequence, they wouldn't have the difficulty that I have faced due to the fact there is a long gap between my BS and MS degrees.<br /><br />News for all: UND's Ph.D program application is being reviewed this year in the next couple of months, and it is a distance+residency combined program in Space Studies! Dr. Whalen is pushing the academic frontier a lot in this regard. <br /><br />Note: The basic makeup of the APUS MS Space Studies course is similar to the UND MS Space Studies course, albeit there is no real physical faculty, but I am hoping in the future adjunct faculty would agree to allow qualified student interns and research assistantships with their original institutions (cross-academic programs). I believe the US space industry needs these cross academic programs unlike the USRA specific discipline approach if we are to catch up to the rest of the world faster.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14613436902450268869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6152535984695656521.post-14739269248612356152009-03-23T08:17:00.000-10:002009-03-23T08:17:00.000-10:00Hi guys,I graduate with my MS in Space Studies fro...Hi guys,<BR/><BR/>I graduate with my MS in Space Studies from American Military U last spring. It was an excellent program and I enjoyed it thoroughly. However, one huge drawback – no real networking opportunities. This has proved difficult in finding a job especially because the degree itself is not that well known. Most perspective employers either seem to think I’m an astrophysicist or astronomer of which neither perception is accurate. I also often feel like a ‘jack of all trades – master of none’ because I’ve had a few courses in remote sensing, a few in orbital mechanics, a few in rocket propulsion – but not enough in any one field to dub me an expert.<BR/><BR/> Another difficulty I have found is applying to PhD programs. I would like to transfer over to the field of astrophysics, which although closely related, it is nowhere near enough to make for an easy transition.<BR/><BR/>I loved studying Space Studies, but now I’m starting to think I should have kept it as just a hobby. Suggestions?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6152535984695656521.post-49784397061958591342009-03-23T07:34:00.000-10:002009-03-23T07:34:00.000-10:00Jodi,Thanks for your comment. I am aware of the A...Jodi,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your comment. I am aware of the American Military University program, but I didn't include it in the comparison because I know very little about it. I don't know anyone who has gone through that program, but that doesn't mean it's not a good program. I don't have a lot of interaction with the military community. Thanks for bringing this up, as it and the others mentioned in these comments help add more information to the original post.BrianShirohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00387138537627037829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6152535984695656521.post-49917317918572929552009-03-22T11:51:00.000-10:002009-03-22T11:51:00.000-10:00I know that American Military University (regional...I know that American Military University (regionally accredited) has a space studies Bachelor's and Master's program. It seems to be pretty interdisciplinary. Is there a reason that this program was not included? I'm seriously considering the Bachelor's degree (I'm prior military) and would love to know our opinion. It's pretty inexpensive as far as distance ed goes (250 per credit hour and books are free for Bachelor's). It's a pretty sweet deal and I would hate to give it up, lol. As I said, I would love to know your opinion because you did an outstanding job on reviewing the two schools in this blog.Jodi Lockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13300349802516966903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6152535984695656521.post-82730600576527922362009-01-28T11:57:00.000-10:002009-01-28T11:57:00.000-10:00Brian: I stumbled across your blog and thought I'...Brian:<BR/><BR/> I stumbled across your blog and thought I'd chime in. I started my MS in Space Studies through American Public University earlier this month, and though I know it's early to weigh in, I've got to say I've got a really good feeling about the program and the professors involved. So far it's been a great experience.<BR/><BR/>Looking over the list of faculty, though, it seems a number of professors got the MS in Space Studies from UND. So, I'm hopeful that they'll be able to help the program grow and gain recognition while also bringing the things they learned at UND. Though it's my first semester as a space-studies grad student, it's my second semester at the university, and it's been a great experience so far.<BR/><BR/>My thought at a later date is to perhaps take some courses through UND or perhaps another of the many program options out there that have space-studies components. It never hurts to gain education and perspectives from more than one source, I figure!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6152535984695656521.post-48309039091253277772009-01-25T18:21:00.000-10:002009-01-25T18:21:00.000-10:00Kieran,Thanks for the comment. I think a earning ...Kieran,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the comment. I think a earning masters at both UND and ISU would be redundant, although both do offer you different networking opportunities. As far as I know, only one person has gotten a masters at both schools (Fabio Sau); see his quote at the bottom of the blog post above. There is currently a UND masters student who previously earned a MSS at ISU, so when he finishes, he'll be the second person to go through both programs. Many people, however, have done the ISU summer program and the UND masters.BrianShirohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00387138537627037829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6152535984695656521.post-62639900310226588602009-01-25T17:29:00.000-10:002009-01-25T17:29:00.000-10:00I took the Minor in Space Studies at Embry Riddle ...I took the Minor in Space Studies at Embry Riddle as one of the three parts of Aerospace Studies (other two I took were Psychology and Humanities which have proved very useful in finding a space tourism career). I highly recommend that and I highly recommend the professors Lance Erickson and Esther Beltran. If you take this minor and then top it off with a Masters at ISU then you should have everything you need for a career in space exploration and development. I am still waiting for a promised job with a space tourism company so I am thinking of taking the Masters at UND as a backup plan if my promised job doesn't start on time. Do you think taking both a space science master at ISU plus a space studies master at UND would be complementary or repetitive?Kieran Griffithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10390584578004188131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6152535984695656521.post-66883232824419677022009-01-11T17:30:00.000-10:002009-01-11T17:30:00.000-10:00Thanks for sharing, Katherine. Two masters degree...Thanks for sharing, Katherine. Two masters degrees in two years sounds really intense!BrianShirohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00387138537627037829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6152535984695656521.post-27389733372315013652009-01-11T03:37:00.000-10:002009-01-11T03:37:00.000-10:00Hi!I am attending ISU SSP this year (09) and look ...Hi!<BR/>I am attending ISU SSP this year (09) and look forward to it! I too was originally accepted into the Master, but chose to do the Erasmus Mundus 'SpaceMaster' (Joint European Master in Space Science and Technology) program in Europe - as it is more academic and into the 'hard disciplines' a little more. <BR/>Basically it's two years in 2-4 countries culminating in the awarding of 2 master degrees - MSc Space Science and Technology and MSc xxx depending on your elected final year university. <BR/><BR/>It doesn't cover things such as space law/policy, but rather focuses both on the science and engineering aspects. <BR/>Perhaps an alternative to the others in the list?<BR/><BR/>PS I would love to do some of the rocketry/propulsion based courses in the US, but funding there for non- US citizens is seriously lacking. Europe is a far better option for non- US citizens - this course offers a full scholarship including living costs! <BR/><BR/>kUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00671179070655265935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6152535984695656521.post-45613006900385746632009-01-09T12:17:00.000-10:002009-01-09T12:17:00.000-10:00Stacy, I don't know anything about that program, b...Stacy, I don't know anything about that program, but it certainly looks similar to the others mentioned in this blog post. At only $825/course, it might take the ribbon as the cheapest option, although others could potentially be cheaper with scholarships or tuition waivers. If you restrict yourself to only distance space studies programs, I guess they are UND, Embry-Riddle, and American Public University.BrianShirohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00387138537627037829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6152535984695656521.post-58755160692197356602009-01-09T12:09:00.000-10:002009-01-09T12:09:00.000-10:00I was searching in Google for Space Studies distan...I was searching in Google for Space Studies distance Master's programs and came upon American Public University. I have never heard of this one - is anyone familiar with their program? http://www.apu.apus.edu/Catalog/08/graduate/degree/master/space-studies/space-studies.htmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6152535984695656521.post-57749016445841592622008-12-09T08:43:00.000-10:002008-12-09T08:43:00.000-10:00Jøern,Yes, I do know about the Embry-Riddle progra...Jøern,<BR/><BR/>Yes, I do know about the Embry-Riddle program. Thanks for sharing. In fact, I included it in <A HREF="http://brianshiro.blogspot.com/2007/10/going-back-to-school.html" REL="nofollow">last year's blog post</A> comparing the different online space degrees. Technically, the Embry-Riddle degree is a <A HREF="http://www.erau.edu/ec/academicorgs/eccoce/mas.html" REL="nofollow">Master of Aeronautical Science</A> with a specialty in <A HREF="http://www.erau.edu/ec/academicorgs/eccoce/mas_req.html" REL="nofollow">Space Studies</A> option. You are the only person I know who's done that program, so please share your impressions and how you think it might compare to ISU and UND.<BR/><BR/>Other programs (non aeronautical or astronautical engineering) that share some "space studies" aspects include:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://eas.uccs.edu/meso.shtml" REL="nofollow">Master of Engineering with focus in Space Operations at University of Colorado at Colorado Springs</A><BR><BR/><A HREF="http://www.webster.edu/gradcatalog/degrees/space.shtml" REL="nofollow">MS in Space Systems Operations Management at Webster University</A><BR><BR/><A HREF="http://www.rmc.ca/aca/phy/ssr-rss-eng.asp" REL="nofollow">Space Science at the Royal Military College of Canada</A><BR><BR/><A HREF="http://www.nps.edu/academics/GSEAS/SpaceSystems/degrees.html" REL="nofollow">Space Systems Certificate at the Naval Postgraduate School</A><BR><BR/><A HREF="http://www.afit.edu/en/" REL="nofollow">Air Force Institute of Technology</A><BR><BR/><A HREF="http://www.gwu.edu/~spi/" REL="nofollow"> Space Policy Institute at George Washington University</A><BR><BR/><A HREF="http://www.mcgill.ca/iasl/" REL="nofollow">Institute of Air and Space Law at McGill University</A><BR><BR/><A HREF="http://www.spacelaw.olemiss.edu/" REL="nofollow">Center for Remote Sensing, Air and Space Law at University of Mississippi</A><BR><BR/>and more space law-related options <A HREF="http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/ECSL/SEMZY4M26WD_0.html" REL="nofollow">here</A><BR>BrianShirohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00387138537627037829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6152535984695656521.post-38372658084266750852008-12-09T05:59:00.000-10:002008-12-09T05:59:00.000-10:00Brian (et al.),When shopping for a space studies m...Brian (et al.),<BR/><BR/>When shopping for a space studies master's, Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University (Daytona Beach) is also an option;<BR/><BR/>http://www.db.erau.edu/campus/departments/aas/space/space_masters.html<BR/><BR/>I got my space studies master's there, under Dr. Lance K. Erickson, RS, space ops, human physiology in space, all that good jazz.<BR/><BR/>It was also a good stepping stone to my geophysics / planetary science doctorate, and on down the road to this point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6152535984695656521.post-65256671828875113422008-12-07T09:55:00.000-10:002008-12-07T09:55:00.000-10:00Robert, there used to be a social network called s...Robert, there used to be a social network called spacealumni.com that tried to bring together alumni from several space education programs such as ISU, UND, NASA coops, etc. It existed from around 2005-2007, but I guess it wasn't utilized enough to warrant a longer life.<BR/><BR/>Axel, I agree that an ISU internship at UND makes perfect sense for the student wanting to do a collaborative research project with a UND professor. You're probably right that Strasbourg is a nicer town than Grand Forks (caveat: I've never been to either place.).BrianShirohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00387138537627037829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6152535984695656521.post-36641865768199714942008-12-07T08:42:00.000-10:002008-12-07T08:42:00.000-10:00Thank you for this, Brian. I'm currently at ISU a...Thank you for this, Brian. <BR/>I'm currently at ISU and had never heard of UND's program until now. You're collaboration idea makes so much sense, especially since we have to do an internship..why not do it at UND, for the academically inclined. From your description both program do seem comparable, but Strasbourg is such a cute town!<BR/>best regards<BR/>axelAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6152535984695656521.post-85066866161921549362008-12-07T04:27:00.000-10:002008-12-07T04:27:00.000-10:00Thanks for putting this together Brian, you have n...Thanks for putting this together Brian, you have no idea how many times I have heard that question...<BR/><BR/>There is a history of attempts to get the two institutions working together - from both faculty and students - often less than successful. <BR/><BR/>Through SpaceGen, however, there has been some great student interaction from both campuses. It was part of our hope with the Moon/Mars Workshop to engender some collaborative research leading to conference and full publications. If the students take it that far (ie. co-authored publications in serious journals), I suspect the institutional inertia might start to give...<BR/><BR/>One thing I would like to see is a full alumni where are they now from both schools to see who ended up employed in the space sector and at what level. <BR/><BR/>Anyway, kudos again and good luck up there!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com